I take your point, and the inspiration behind the name _Keresdrakon_
is impressive. However, I'm wary of names that look like two (or
more) nouns stuck together without any attempt to link them. ÂThe
theropod name _Notatesseraeraptor_ (nota + tesserae +Â raptor =
feature + mosaic stones + robber) is a case in point, and one of the
worst examples in recent memory: the name fails to convey the intended
meaning ('predator with an intermixture/mosaic of features'). ÂNot
that I want to directly compare _Keresdrakon_ with a nomenclatural
disaster like _Notatesseraeraptor_. I also understand why
"Kerodrakon" or "Kerdrakon" might fall afoul in Brazilian Portuguese,
in light of the local meaning of kero/ker. :-)
Could _Keresdrakon_ have been "Keressidrakon" or something similar,
rather than simply Keres + drakon? Etymologically speaking, does
_Keresdrakon_ express the intended meaning? (Not a criticism, I'm
genuinely curious - Ben, Borja...?)
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 8:53 PM Borja Holgado <bortx.holgado@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ben, thank you quick and fine clarification.
>
> As co-author of the paper, we intentionally used the plural and the translation ought to be "the dragon of the Keres". As a funny fact, "Kero" or "Ker" are homophones of "I want" or "you/he want(s)" in Brazilian Portuguese (respectively)... and I am not sure if Brazilian people would like this dragon for breakfast or dinner!
>
> Cheers,
> Borja
>
> Missatge de Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> del dia dc., 21 dâag. 2019 a les 2:58:
>>
>>
>> Neo-Latin is what usage makes it, so a syntactic compound (rather than a stem-based compound) with a plural and a singular might be OK. In the singular, Ker meant the goddess of death, so using the stem ker- or kero- might not convey the idea intended with the plural Keres.
>>
>> Ker goddess of death
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.perseus.tufts.edu_hopper_text-3Fdoc-3DPerseus-253Atext-253A1999.04.0057-253Aentry-253D-2Akh-252Fr&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=Bun60-aZnVV3zgq7CNDix-6JzA00F_MqiAWqllccvjI&s=mFidexcLxqwzT6bZgT04ZKrzbSBwu1dNO8TaFUZPlps&e=
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>>
>> Greek had a compound:
>> keressiphoretos "urged on by the Keres"
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.perseus.tufts.edu_hopper_text-3Fdoc-3DPerseus-253Atext-253A1999.04.0058-253Aentry-253D-2Akhressifo-252Frhtos&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=Bun60-aZnVV3zgq7CNDix-6JzA00F_MqiAWqllccvjI&s=YHghO-z4Vbyf5S6Rp8MbR1sn54swjx_9QF0GxefwB84&e=
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>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lsj.gr_wiki_-25CE-25BA-25CE-25B7-25CF-2581-25CE-25B5-25CF-2583-25CF-2583-25CE-25B9-25CF-2586-25CF-258C-25CF-2581-25CE-25B7-25CF-2584-25CE-25BF-25CF-2582&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=Bun60-aZnVV3zgq7CNDix-6JzA00F_MqiAWqllccvjI&s=N09sHBWProazstmoVACrTTiMMOCE4UmuDEM9FT7UPwY&e=
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>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:18 PM Tim Williams <tijawi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> The name (_Keresdrakon_) is odd. It's named after the Keres, the "deathspirits who personified violent death in Greek mythology and are associated to doom and/or plunder". It's a great idea to name a pterosaur after the Keres - nothing wrong here. However, "Keres" is plural. The singular is "Ker". Â"_Keresdrakon_" looks very 'cut-and-paste'. The name would perhaps be more appropriately rendered as "Kerdrakon" or "Kerodrakon". (Ben - any comments?)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 1:47 AM Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ben Creisler
>>>> bcreisler@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>> A new paper in open access:
>>>>
>>>> Free pdf:
>>>>
>>>> Keresdrakon vilsoni gen. et sp. nov.
>>>>
>>>> Alexander W.A. Kellner, Luiz C. WeinschÃtz, Borja Holgado, Renan A.M. Bantim & Juliana M. SayÃo (2019)
>>>> A new toothless pterosaur (Pterodactyloidea) from Southern Brazil with insights into the paleoecology of a Cretaceous desert.
>>>> Anais da Academia Brasileira de CiÃncias 91, suppl.2: e20190768
>>>> doi: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dx.doi.org_10.1590_0001-2D3765201920190768&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=Bun60-aZnVV3zgq7CNDix-6JzA00F_MqiAWqllccvjI&s=m3i255MnFpriQn06WksgSk5QJEyi-e0K-ink8dkXUFE&e= .
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scielo.br_scielo.php-3Fscript-3Dsci-5Fabstract-26pid-3DS0001-2D37652019000400517-26lng-3Den-26nrm-3Diso-26tlng-3Den&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=Bun60-aZnVV3zgq7CNDix-6JzA00F_MqiAWqllccvjI&s=ostglfzz-DhE1zR4zudmI4VlMIo4vc_djENCzXaAbEA&e=
>>>>
>>>> Free pdf:
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>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.scielo.br_pdf_aabc_v91s2_0001-2D3765-2Daabc-2D91-2Ds2-2De20190768.pdf&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=Bun60-aZnVV3zgq7CNDix-6JzA00F_MqiAWqllccvjI&s=ml6wIdrISjKrvQRTyUEcNCEnvDDZzZ6v0982TFCTCxI&e=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The first pterosaur bone bed from Brazil was reported in 2014 at the outskirts of the town Cruzeiro do Oeste, Paranà State, in the Southern region of the country. Here named 'cemitÃrio dos pterossauros' site, these outcrops were referred to the Goio-Erà Formation (Turonian-Campanian) of the Caiuà Group (Bauru Basin) and revealed the presence of hundreds of isolated or partially articulated elements of the tapejarine pterosaur Caiuajara and fewer amounts of a theropod dinosaur. Here we present a new tapejaromorph flying reptile from this site, Keresdrakon vilsoni gen. et sp. nov., which shows a unique blunt ridge on the dorsal surface of the posterior end of the dentary. Morphological and osteohistological features indicate that all recovered individuals represent late juveniles or sub-adults. This site shows the first direct evidence of sympatry in Pterosauria. The two distinct flying reptiles coexisted with a theropod dinosaur, providing a rare glimpse of a paleobiological community from a Cretaceous desert.
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