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Re: gigantism as liability



Consider sea-turtles; no parental care, young born very small and having
to spring down the beach to the water. Most don't make it, and must then
get through many years in the ocean to reach breeding size.  Yet, absent
humans, turtles do very well.

Perhaps the essential thing was staying alive as an adult long enough to
lay enough eggs.  That would make predator defence through size a
component of the r-strategy.

Exactly.

Unsurprisingly, we've had this exact discussion before. Here http://dml.cmnh.org/2005Jan/msg00462.html is a good post, for example.