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Re: Combined answer: smallest ANCIENT non-bird dinosaur - was what I was asking



David Marjanovic writes:

From: "Dann Pigdon" <dannj@alphalink.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:06 AM


The real question is whether Archaeopteryx 'deserves' to be within Aves (if 'Aves' is still even in use). This is simply a question of how scientists choose to define such a classification, since there is really no such thing as a 'natural' grouping. All classification systems are ultimately arbitrary.

There is of course such a thing as a natural grouping -- clades really exist --, but of course how we name them and which ones we name is arbitrary, so your point stands.

Ultimately there is really only one 'natural' group - 'life' (assuming it arose just once on this planet). Any groupings smaller than that are just a series of arbitrary lines separating 'this' from 'that' (shoe-horn sold separately).


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Dann Pigdon
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