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Re: Birds and pornography

> > > Agreed, if you took out Archie and the mrca,  you'd have universal
> > >  acceptance.

Still depends on one's preferred phylogeny. If I'm right (he boldly
claimed), then *Tyrannosaurus* would still be a bird that way.

> > Uh, ¿cómo?  Archie has been considered a "bird" ever since it was
discovered!
>
> Well, early on, there was Wagner's attempt to rename it _Griphosaurus_ and
> place it in Reptilia, right?

And Thulborn (1984) and HP Paul (PDW, 1988, SVP meeting abstract, 2001, and
Dinosaurs of the Air, in press), who think that other coelurosaurs are
closer to Ornithurae/Ornithothoraces/Pygostylia than Archie.