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Fw: synapsids are reptiles



 
David Marjanovic 3 April wrote:
1) "There has been the suggestion that Diadectomorphs are
      Synapsids".
 
Something of similar was suggested by Berman et Al. on the basis of the otic trough, but Laurin & Reisz 1995 pointed that even if it is present in Casea several early Synapsids like Eothyris have not otic trough.
 
2) "You do know that by your suggestion you are a reptile and reptilia became the same of amniota". 
 
I am a reptile as they are the turtles and the birds, but Reptilia not became the same of Amniota, because Synapsids, Diapsids, and Anapsids are united by advanced characters that well separated them from Diadectomorphs (Laurin & Reisz 1995).
Only for example, using as a basis the phylogeny of Laurin and Gauthier in Tree of Life and Changing some names this is the result:
 
              ____________________________Diadectomorpha
              |
              |              ________________________Synapsida
              |              |                                     _Mesosaurid.
              |              |                                     |
              |              |                                     |  _____Miller.
              |              |                    _Anapsida_|  |    _Acleist.
              |              |                    |                |  |  _|
              |              |                    |                |  |  | |_Lantha.
              |              |                    |                |_|  |
              |              |                    |                   |  |
              |              |                    |                   |  |
Amniota_|              |                    |                   |_|
              |              |                    |                      |  _Macro.
              |              |                    |                      |  |
              |              |                    |                      |  |_Nycti.
              |              |                    |                      |  |
              |_Reptilia_|                    |                      |_|  _Par.
                             |                    |                        |_|
                             |                    |                        |  |_Proc
                             |                    |                        |
                             |_Sauropsida_|                        |_? Test.
                                                  |
                                                  |
                                                  |                  __Captorhin.
                                                  |                  |
                                                  |_Romeriida_|  _Protoroth
                                                                     |_|
                                                                       |_Diapsida
 
3) "The situation in amniote phylogeny is so solid".
 
I cannot agree with this statement, unless the "solidity" is restricted  to the fact that synapsids diverged before sauropsids.
 
4) "It is better to abandon the term reptilia".
 
The language and the terms are important, at least at educative level, and the historical term Reptilia has acquired an high semantic value that cannot easily dismissed, it recalls immediately amniotic primitivity (although actual lizards and snakes are not primitive). After all A.S. Romer himself in his "The vertebrate story- 1967" defined the amniotic egg as the reptilian egg.
 
Steve Brusatte 3 April wrote:
"Everything I've read has stated what Dr. Holtz posted back  in 1995: that Dimetrodon (and other early synapsids) likely had poor color vision (along with glandular skin etc.)
 
At the reliable site www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/synapsids/pelycosaurs.html
I have read the following:
"It is believed that pelycosaurs, like their living mammal relatives, were endothermic, which means that they maintained a constant internal body temperature. This is another characteristic that sets pelycosaurs apart from reptiles".
It would be interesting to know who really believe it and on which evidence. Perhaps the Dimetrodon sail? Maybe the sail favorites the temperature control in an ectothermic body, but endothermy implicate high metabolic rate and is totally another thing. Not to mention the other pelycosaurs that are completely without sail. It is true that some pelycosaurs have slender limbs but the position is always sprawling.
The educators are obliged to a big straining to show the difference between a pelycosaur and a reptile.
 
Alberto Arisi