Re: [dinosaur] Doing Dinodocs in the 2020s & beyond (was Re: Prehistoric Road Trip,Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Beasts)

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Subject: Re: [dinosaur] Doing Dinodocs in the 2020s & beyond (was Re: Prehistoric Road Trip,Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Beasts)

From: "Yazbeck, Thomas" <yazbeckt@msu.edu>

Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 19:05:00 +0000

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Thread-topic: [dinosaur] Doing Dinodocs in the 2020s & beyond (was Re: Prehistoric Road Trip,Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Beasts)

Ron-

You are right about the abundance of Youtube crap, I was sorta counting the hits and not the misses on that front. That being said, I think those crummy computer-generated videos are the bottom of the barrel. YT viewers prefer actual human narration or host presence and video engagement stats reflect that. Those crummy Chinese vids are never going to be *that* successful because what real human viewers want is a charismatic, entertaining host and some production value, not text-to-speech over a slideshow of images from Google.

Things get trickier when it's real, traceable people involved. A competent & charismatic amateur who's good at making videos and getting people to watch them has a platform to disseminate all kinds of info, including pseudoscience. to combat junk science on a platform like YouTube, experts have to become Youtubers themselves, wading into the comment sections and posting videos themselves.

>(there are a lot of really crummy YouTube videos on prehistoric life out there that appear to come from China and to be narrated by computerized voices). If there is to be a successful revolt against this sort of thing from technical consultants, it will have to be across the board.

Thomas Yazbeck

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Subject: Re: [dinosaur] Doing Dinodocs in the 2020s & beyond (was Re: Prehistoric Road Trip,Tiny Teeth, Fearsome Beasts)

What Greg Paul is talking about is, alas, far from a problem of paleodocs alone. I have read quite a few comments by knowledgeable historians bewailing the state of so-called ‘historical’ documentaries on stations such as the History Channel, which appear to have abandoned actual scholarly research entirely for sensationalism and pseudoscience (including ‘ancient aliens’, etc). it doesn’t help when so-called historical dramas such as The Tudors present an utterly unrecognizable view of the time they are supposed to be portraying.

The BBC generally does a much better job at this sort of thing, but the problem is widespread (there are a lot of really crummy YouTube videos on prehistoric life out there that appear to come from China and to be narrated by computerized voices). If there is to be a successful revolt against this sort of thing from technical consultants, it will have to be across the board.