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Re: [dinosaur] On several Russian papers




Ben Creisler
bcreisler@gmail.com

An additional way to find papers in Russian is this site:

Russian doc player

https://docplayer.ru/

This finds additional material (articles, books, news) online beyond Geokniga.

There are download tools, but they don't always work because of network problems it seems.

The queries are a bit limited and only single words see to work very well Âas far as I can tell. You can put in generic names in Latin form or in the Russian form.

One advantage is that the text is displayed at the bottom in addition to images, and can be copied for translation, or translated using online translation tools.

For example, here's the link to Efremov's 1955 monograph on Permian and Triassic vertebrates. If you use Google Chrome, the translation tool at the top right on the page will translate the text version of the monograph at the bottom.

https://docplayer.ru/50481171-Permskih-i-triasovyh-na-territorii-moskva-1955-l-e-n-i-n-g-r-a-d.html


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On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 9:51 AM Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
Ben Creisler
bcreisler@gmail.com


A correction. The intended link in Geokniga for Efremov as an author is:

The link that got pasted only went to one publication.

You can find available free publications by a particular author by typing Âin the Russian name in the query box with "authors":

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 12:09 AM Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:

Ben Creisler
bcreisler@gmail

As I thought, some of these papers can be downloaded from Russian sites, although sometimes as a full journal or issue rather than as an individual article.

One possible complication is that Russian websites often post documents in DjVu format rather than pdf. You will need to download a reader, which should be available for free. You click through the pages from the bar at the top. You can also convert DjVu to pdf (although I have not tried it).


The Archive for the Russian journal Priroda in DjVu is posted here:

http://priroda.ras.ru/

The issue with Maleev's original description of ÂTherizinosaurus (Priroda 1954(3):106-108), including an illustrated reconstruction as a giant turtle-like animal(!), can be downloaded at this link.

http://priroda.ras.ru/djvu/1954-03.djvu

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The Geokniga website is a bit tricky to work through, but here is a link to some of the publications (in DjVu) by Efremov:




You need to click on the title, then go to the bottom of the individual page for the publication and click on the link.

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Chudinov's book on early therapsids from 1983 is here:

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I may be able to get links for some of the other papers, but it can take some time to get the queries right in Russian, and, of course, some papers may not be online at the moment.



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On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:04 PM Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
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Ben Creisler
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Do you necessarily want the first description of a taxon, which sometimes was a very short notice? In some cases, the same authors later published more detailed descriptions, some of which are online from different sources. However, I would need some time to track these down, which involves having the exact Russian spelling and often the Russian form of the scientific name.Â

Here's snippet views of the original description of Therizinosaurus (but it doesn't show the original goofy giant turtle "life" reconstruction that was in the Priroda article). Obviously, this was scanned by somebody...



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On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:51 AM David Marjanovic <david.marjanovic@gmx.at> wrote:
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Von:Â"Leonardo GÃmez" <primeval102@gmail.com>
Did anyone see this?
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I did. I neither have the pdfs, nor was I optimistic about any existing, so I didn't react.
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But searching Google Scholar for "pliosaurus rossicus" (with quotation marks) finds the openly accessible pdf on the first page of results.
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Searching forÂNyctiphruretus and ÐÑÑÐÐÐÐ brings up two results in total, neither of which is the description. Likewise forÂTitanophoneus and ÐÑÑÐÐÐÐ.
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Searching forÂTherizinosaurus and ÐÐÐÐÐÐ brings up interesting things, but nothing by ÐÐÐÐÐÐ.
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So, as expected, most of these works have either never been digitized, or they've only been scanned as pictures without OCR.