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Re: [dinosaur] R: Re: R: French ornithomimosaur skeleton on display + Protoceratops + more

Thank you.



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It's Early Cretaceous according to sources.

See this free article:


R. Allain, R. Vullo, J. Le loeuff &  J.-F. Tournepiche (2014)
European ornithomimosaurs (Dinosauria, Theropoda): an undetected record.
Geologica Acta 12(2): 127-135


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Some articles in English:




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On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 2:45 PM, Yazbeck, Thomas Michael <yazbeckt@msu.edu> wrote:

does anybody know the provenance of the French ornithomimosaur? is it Jurassic in age?



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Exactly, the arms of the new species are very small, absolutely different from the long arms of the ornithomimosaurs. And yes, the resemblance to Elaphrosaurus I saw in conjunction with the similarity between the latter and Limusaurus.
However, we will see it as soon as the description is published ...

Marco

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That said, Limusaurus (which at least some analyses place as the sister taxon of Elaphrosaurus) is toothless as an adult.

Also, the hands in Limusaurus and Elaphrosaurus are among the most reduced in theropods, while known ornithomimosaurs have working (clamping) hands.

On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:


But note that the French ornithomimosaur apparently lacked a hand with fingers and had a stump forelimb (43+ specimens so far show no evidence of hand bones or digits). Manual elements (metacarpals) are known for Elaphrosaurus.  The skull is also toothless and had a beak--no skull known for Elaphrosaurus so hard to compare.


Oliver W. M. Rauhut and Matthew T. Carrano (2016)
The theropod dinosaur Elaphrosaurus bambergi Janensch, 1920, from the Late Jurassic of Tendaguru, Tanzania.
Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society 178(3): 546–610
DOI: 10.1111/zoj.12425


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On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 12:42 PM, maaudito3@alice.it <maaudito3@alice.it> wrote:
Only to me the french "ornithomimosaur" remembers Elaphrosaurus ...? 

Marco Auditore

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Some recent items:


3D-printed cast skeleton of yet-to-be-named ornithomimosaur from Charente is mounted at Angouleme Museum, after a secret  preview in a tent at the discovery site (photos, videos) (in French)



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Protoceratops: a Frill, a Beak… and an Attitude for Mongolian Dinosaurs



https://mongoliandinosaurs.org/protoceratops-a-frill-a-beak-and-an-attitude/


Twitter posts


https://twitter.com/MongolianDinos


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Dinosaur experts, artists interviews (unfortunately, no direct links to content--you need to scroll down to find them...)

Including Dean Lomax, Scott Hartman, Nobumichi Tamura...



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Paleontologist Lindsay Zanno will broadcast live tomorrow from one of her dig sites. @ExpeditionLive



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Rare Triassic reptile and fish fossils found high above the sea in the Swiss Alps (in German)



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Dinosaur tracks discovered in Conuma Coal Resources Ltd’s Wolverine Mine in British Columbia



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New Mexico museum wins grant to study mammal life after K-Pg mass extinction



http://krqe.com/2017/08/02/new-mexico-museum-wins-grant-to-study-mammal-life-after-mass-extinction/


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