Re: Stegosaurus fossil mounted for display at Natural History Museum in London

[Robert Simon <dino_safaris@yahoo.com>]

Yes, I believe they are named Lily and Victoria. Both from the Howe-Stephens 
quarry. And they are the original bones, but not as complete as 'Sarah/Sophie'.

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> On Nov 16, 2014, at 4:39 PM, "Mallison, Heinrich" 
> <Heinrich.Mallison@mfn-berlin.de> wrote:
> 
> there are several stegosaurs at SMA, not just this one.
> 
> Dr. Heinrich Mallison
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> Simon [dino_safaris@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:34 PM
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> Subject: Re: Stegosaurus fossil mounted for display at Natural History Museum 
> in London
> 
> The stegosaurus at the sauriermuseum is a cast of the real stegosaurus now in 
> London.
> 
> Bob Simon
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 4:09 PM, Ben Creisler <bcreisler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ben Creisler
>> bcreisler@gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> A point worth clarifying here is that the new Stegosaurus stenops
>> mount is nearly all actual fossil bones. Other Stegosaurus mounts in
>> Europe are mostly casts:
>> 
>> Leiden Naturalis Museum Stegosaurus is a cast:
>> 
>> http://www.naturalis.nl/en/museum/top-pieces/stegosaurus/
>> 
>> http://www.expatcentreleiden.nl/news/news_item/t/new_dinosaur_for_naturalis
>> 
>> **
>> The Senckenberg Museum in Frankfurt is a cast of the AMNH specimen:
>> 
>> http://www.senckenberg.de/root/index.php?page_id=14796
>> 
>> **
>> The "Sarah" specimen mounted at the Sauriermuseum Aathal is a cast,
>> but the other stegosaurs on display there are real fossil bones.
>> 
>> ==============
>> There are differences in neck length in the new NHM specimen and the
>> Sauriermuseum specimens compared to older mounts, as well as the
>> position of the ribs and shape of the rib cage and curvature of the
>> back. Some reconstructions had a strongly curved back and a somewhat
>> fan-shaped rib cage with the lower ends of the ribs converging. This
>> is similar to Greg Paul's reconstructions:
>> 
>> http://blog.press.princeton.edu/2010/10/01/pgs-daily-dinosaur-stegosaurus-steno
>> 
>> and the "Stegosaurus in the ground" displays such as at the Houston Museum.
>> 
>> Houston Museum Stegosaurus
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/hmns/8424150861/
>> 
>> Other mounts have a less pronounced back curvature and more evenly
>> spaced ribs in the rib cage. How much could post-mortem processes
>> reshape the rib cage?
>> 
>> Also, the biggest plate over the sacral area is sometimes restored as
>> being horizontal or as vertical as in the new NHM mount. In fact, the
>> time-lapse sequence shows the big plate being repositioned to stick up
>> vertically. Another issue is whether the plates were a single row
>> tilted apart to fit along the back or were a separated double row in
>> an alternating staggered arrangement.
>> 
>> How Yale Stegosaurus was corrected in a remount.
>> 
>> http://earth.yale.edu/sites/default/files/files/Academics/11-Revan_thesis%2Bappendix.pdf
>> 
>> Stegosaurus plates dissertation
>> 
>> http://aps.group.shef.ac.uk/level-4-web-sites/l4-students-09/barden-holly/3rd-year-Dissertation.pdf
>> 
>> Brian Switek article
>> http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/stegosaurus-plate-debate-142166929/
>> 
>> Denver museum Stegosaurus
>> 
>> http://coloradogeologicalsurvey.org/education/state-symbols/state-fossils/
>> 
>> Wuerhosaurus fossil rib cage
>> 
>> http://www.palaeocritti.com/by-group/dinosauria/stegosauria/wuerhosaurus
>> 
>> 
>> 
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