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Re: How many species of dinosaur



One additional clarification pertaining to the counts presented below. When a species is transferred from one genus to another, it's counted under both generic names, so score yet another reason why the numbers will be inflated. I'm hopeful someone else on the list will be able to provide a reasonable estimate for the number of valid dinosaur species. I'm curious what my numbers would look like if you eliminated all the noise associated with my less than scientific approach to tracking species names! (I feel much better about my genus counts, though.)

Best,
Rob

----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Taylor" <rjtaylor68@comcast.net>
To: <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Cc: <dmu1@leicester.ac.uk>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: How many species of dinosaur



Hi Dave,

I maintain a database and can throw out a couple figures, but will no doubt have to furnish a handful of caveats along with them. In addition, as I'm only an enthusiast, I would strongly urge you to trust any figures received from a paleo-pro over these!

In any event, I have a count of 2,330 species, which includes scientifically valid and vernacular names, animals once considered to be dinosaurs (but now known to be something else), and spelling variations. I am confident that all appeared in print somewhere, but at present I can link only about 45-50% of them to actual publications.

Important to note that my database is genus-centric, and while I endeavor to keep tabs on the validity of associated type species, everything else just gets dumped into a bucket without regard to its current status. (Admittedly, there's not a lot of utility in this, other than being able to plug a combination into Google and see what comes up!) For this reason, attempts to drill down may get us closer to a meaningful number, but cannot in any way be considered accurate. That said, it's Saturday and I have time to construct a query or two, so let's give 'er a go anyway...

At the genus level, I have a total of 1,171 dinosaur names, and consider 893 to be scientifically valid. Of the valid names, 681 might be considered generally well-established, the rest being junior synonyms or nomina dubia. At this point, I am limited to simply counting the species found in association with the valid and well-established genera. For the former, I come up with 1,894 species names, for the latter, 1,387. I have no doubt that these counts will be dramatically high - again, owing to the inclusion of misspellings and the fact that I've made no effort to track validity at the species level - but perhaps they will serve as ultra-conservative ballpark estimates until someone can provide you with more accurate counts.

Best regards,

Rob Taylor
Lansdale, PA, USA
rjtaylor68@comcast.net
SVP Member #15293

P.S. My database also includes pterosaurs, for which I have the following counts. (Again, I'm an amateur, so please don't be too harsh!) 149 generic names, of which I consider 119 to be scientifically valid, and 96 to be generally well-established. At the species level, 555 names, with 486 of those in association with the valid names and 431 in association with the well-established names. I imagine the 54 species I have listed under Ornithocheirus alone may skew the latter count by just a smidge!


----- Original Message ----- From: "Unwin, Dr D.M." <dmu1@leicester.ac.uk>
To: <dinosaur@usc.edu>
Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 10:34 AM
Subject: How many species of dinosaur



Dear All,

A quick question.

Can anyone tell me roughly how many species of dinosaur have been named and, of these, roughly how many are currently considered to be valid? Data, opinions or pointers to web/lit sources all welcome.

Ta,

Dave

PS Yes, I am writing my talk for next weeks meeting on Dinosaurs - A Historical Perspective
http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/gsl/groups/specialist/hogg/pid/2907;jsessionid=D5B1B49C90F0B5910D7ADB4E7FFE6066


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