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Fwd: Re: Where have all the ornithischians gone?



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> David Marjanovic (david.marjanovic@gmx.at) wrote:
> 
> <:-o
>  Is there any known dinosaur with more than 15 (or 17 if we interpret the
> sacrum favorably)?>
> 
>   Gah, that was a mistake, my appologies. This count was way too generous and
> counting from the holotype slab gives me a presacral count, sans axis and
> atlas, of 23. This means, with those elements, the presacral column was 25
> elements, and I suspect the third sacral with is caudally oriented transverse
> processes, is a sacrocaudal, meaning there were probably 26 "true"
> presacrals,
> 7-8 of which were cervicals; thus, a "dorsal" count (ambiguity pertaining to
> the rather contentious pectoral region) of 18-17 dorsals. My bad. The normal
> archosaur pattern, ~24, is upheld at least, by *Lotosaurus*.
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
> Jaime A. Headden
> 
>   Little steps are often the hardest to take.  We are too used to making
> leaps in the face of adversity, that a simple skip is so hard to do.  We
> should all learn to walk soft, walk small, see the world around us rather
> than zoom by it.
> 
> "Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)
> 
> "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
> experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination
> to do so." --- Douglas Adams
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Jaime A. Headden

  Little steps are often the hardest to take.  We are too used to making leaps 
in the face of adversity, that a simple skip is so hard to do.  We should all 
learn to walk soft, walk small, see the world around us rather than zoom by it.

"Innocent, unbiased observation is a myth." --- P.B. Medawar (1969)

"Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the 
experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to 
do so." --- Douglas Adams


                
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