Re: Labrosaurus (was RE: birds and dinosaurs)

[Phil Bigelow <bigelowp@juno.com>]

The definition of "neotype" is pretty clear.
But if the holotype, lectotype, or syntype was lost or destroyed, then
that means that a prior publication exists that describes the type.  So
if a *subsequent* publication creates a neotype, then the neotype *must*
be considered referred, because its material doesn't appear in the
original publication.  No?

<pb>
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On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 12:25:55 -0600 "Ken Carpenter" <KCarpenter@dmns.org>
writes:
> (ICZN) a specimen subsequently designated as the name-bearing type of 
> a species or subspecies for which, it is believed, there no longer 
> exists a holotype, lectotype, syntype(s), or prior neotype (i.e. 
> type lost or destroyed) 
> 
> 
> Kenneth Carpenter, Ph.D.
> Curator of Lower Vertebrate Paleontology &
> Chief Preparator
> Dept. of Earth Sciences
> Denver Museum of Natural History 
> 2001 Colorado Blvd.
> Denver, CO 80205
> 
> Phone: (303)370-6392
> Fax: (303)331-6492
> email: KCarpenter@DMNS.org
> 
> For fun:
>  http://dino.lm.com/artists/display.php?name=Kcarpenter
> 
> 
> >>> Phil Bigelow <bigelowp@juno.com> 07/Jul/04 >>>
> Does that mean that a neotype is also a referred specimen?
> 
> <pb>
> --
> 
> On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 10:41:58 -0600 Ken Carpenter 
> <KCarpenter@dmns.org>
> writes:
> > Mickey is correct, however, that the paratype must be designated 
> in 
> > the same publication as the holotype . Any specimen mentioned 
> > afterwards (even in a redescription of the holotype) are referred 
> 
> > specimens.
> > Ken
> > 
> > Kenneth Carpenter, Ph.D.
> > Curator of Lower Vertebrate Paleontology &
> > Chief Preparator
> > Dept. of Earth Sciences
> > Denver Museum of Natural History 
> > 2001 Colorado Blvd.
> > Denver, CO 80205
> > 
> > Phone: (303)370-6392
> > Fax: (303)331-6492
> > email: KCarpenter@DMNS.org
> > 
> > For fun:
> >  http://dino.lm.com/artists/display.php?name=Kcarpenter
> > 
> > 
> > >>> "Thomas R. Holtz, Jr." <tholtz@geol.umd.edu> 07/Jul/04 >>>
> > > From: owner-dinosaur@usc.edu [mailto:owner-dinosaur@usc.edu]On 
> > Behalf Of
> > > Tim Williams
> > >Thomas R. Holtz, Jr.
> > >Actually, the "paratype" (technically a topotype, as Chure points 
> 
> > out) and
> > >the (unnecessary) neotype were officially indicated in Madsen 
> > (1976, p. 10).
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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