Re: Tyrannosauroids and dromaeosaurs

["David Marjanovic" <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>]

Oh, wow.

> I also changed several cranial and
> cervical characters to be MUCH less subjective.

How? (Or would that take too long to write down?)

>          `--+--+--Iliosuchus
>             |  |--Fukuiraptor
>             |  |--Stokesosaurus
>             |  `--+--Bagaraatan
>             |     |--Aviatyrannis
>             |     `--Tyrannosauridae

*I.* immediately a tyrannosaur -- cool. But *Fukuiraptor* and not
*Dryptosaurus*?

>                               `--+--+--Proceratosaurus
>                                  |  `--+--Coelurus
>                                  |     `--+--Scipionyx
>                                  |        `--YPM 1996

Wasn't YPM 1996 thought to be an "enigmosaur"? Or have I confused the
%$%$%§$§ numbers?

>                                        `--+--Yixianosaurus
>                                           `--+--+--+--Caudipteryx zoui
>                                              |  |  `--Caudipteryx sp. nov.
>                                              |  `--+--+--Incisivosaurus
>                                              |     |  `--Avimimus

Does *Yixianosaurus* destroy the "enigmosaurs", or is this more complicated?
How come *Caudipteryx* is more basal than *Incisivosaurus*? And what does
the latter share with *Avimimus*?

>                                              `--+--Protarchaeopteryx

~:-|

>  `--+--+--Archaeornithoides
>    |  `--+--Byronosaurus
>    |     `--+--Pyroraptor
>    |        `--+--Sinovenator

*S.* so high up? Interesting... well, actually, the troodontid topology is
pretty standard.

>   `--+--Scansoriopterygidae
>      `--+--+--Archaeopteryx
>         |  `--Wellnhoferia
>         `--Eumaniraptora

B-)
What are the synapomorphies of Eumaniraptora?

> |--+--+--Microraptor gui
> |  |  `--+--Microraptor zhaoianus
> |  |     `--Cryptovolans

Why not *M. gui* and *C.* as sistergroups?

> |        `--+--Saurornitholestes
> |           `--+--IGM 100/1015
> |              `--+--+--Achillobator
> |                 |  `--+--Utahraptor
> |                 |     `--Velociraptor
> |                 `--+--Deinonychus
> |                    |--Dromaeosaurus
> |                    `--Adasaurus
> `--+--Unenlagia

Confusing...

>                         `--+--+--Protopteryx
>                            |  `--Longipteryx

Cool.

>                               `--+--+--Noguerornis
>                                  |  |--Boluochia
>                                  |  |--Neuquenornis
>                                  |  |--Gobipteryx
>                                  |  `--Enantiornis

How did you get the position of *Boluochia* so well resolved?

>                                  `--+--Eoalulavis

I've found it a few times as the basalmost euornithine. Not in my final
analysis, but there are just a few steps difference.

>                                     |--+--Ambiortus
>                                     |  `--Apsaravis

How come?

>                                     |--+--Patagopteryx
>                                     |  `--+--Liaoningornis
>                                     |     `--Songlingornis

?!?

>                                     `--+--Yanornis
>                                        `--+--Yixianornis
>                                           `--Ornithurae

:-) Like in my analysis.
(Which I'll have to update to include *Jixiangornis*, *Longirostravis*, a
few codings of *Sapeornis*, and *Omnivoropteryx*.

> - Pelecanimimus is a deinocheirid.

That group leads me to suspect you might have got some polarities wrong.
(Or... of course... everyone else.)