Re: FUCHSIA and the Ostrom Symposium Volume

["David Marjanovic" <david.marjanovic@gmx.at>]

I think I should downright apologize for starting this thread while the Wing
Assisted Incline Running model is unassailable. The following few answers,
and I'll try to shut up and W4tP. :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Williams, Tim" <TiJaWi@agron.iastate.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 7:02 PM

> >  On the other hand, regarding good old Archie... it didn't run much,
> > it climbed even less, it lived on rather food-poor islands,
>
> I'd love to have a ride in your time machine.

Er, yeah, anytime, but the flight from Australia to Austria and/or back is
expensive. -- I thought this subject had been discussed often enough onlist
and in the literature that I could simply throw hypotheses around as matters
of fact; DA comes to similar conclusions (ilium pretty small, claw curvature
just on the terrestrial side, short, elevated hallux that was reverted, but
to an unknown degree, limited limb mobility...). I must apologize for "even
less", though, which is already semiquantitative, as chemists would say, and
therefore much more difficult to test. I wrote this mostly because Fig. 9.2
in DA shows *Archaeopteryx* climbing with pronated hands, which may not have
been possible, after the text argues that the long, strong arms, especially
the 2nd finger, were good climbing organs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "James R. Cunningham" <jrccea@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:28 AM

> I'm sure you can find it in the archives if you're interested.  I don't
have
> time to look.  I've repeated it a couple of times before.

Sorry, I still underestimated the search engine! Just searching for "car
rope" brings up your scenario about 3 times. Very convincing. I asked myself
about the same when reading Burgers and Padian's chapter, but then ignored
it... I'll ask the authors if they can overcome this. -- Rayner can imagine
using headwinds instead of flapping.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jean-Michel BENOIT" <s.aegyptiacus@free.fr>
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 10:55 PM
Subject: Re: Abbreviation update (was Re: FUCHSIA)

> ANY? Is that a new abreviation?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronald Orenstein" <ornstn@rogers.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 4:26 PM

No. He was just cyber-shouting :-)