Kris, Tracy, et al:
Tracy wrote (in response to my previous answer):
What are the short necked hadrosaurs and what are the long necked ones?
Back in August of 1998, I had asked Greg Paul (on list) some questions concerning the printing of his profile reconstructions of herbivorous dinosaurs that ended up in the DinoFest International proceedings (from 1996 - printed 1998 to the Phila. DinoFest). The following is the more precise version of the questions and answers (after some Dino List conversations).
>> 1) What precisely were the silhouettes of the hadrosaur necks
>> supposed to represent - a flap of skin (as some artists have put on
>> the back of _Parasaurolophus_'s head and neck), OR a 'withers'-type
>> neck (as mentioned in Sam Girouard's post)?
>> 2) What were these ideas based on?
>> I have had answers to both these questions:
>> 1) a 'withers' type neck and
>> 2) based on fossilized skin impressions (including nuchal ligaments).
>> I still say that SOME of the reconstructions look silly to me - remember
>> I grew up starting in the 1950's, so I've seen several variants of
>> reconstructions throughout the years. Also, remember that I'm from Phila.,
>> where I have had close contact with _Hadrosaurus folkii_ and _Corythosaurus_
>> at ANSP since 1985 (and actually since 1958 in their original mounts).
>> Naturally, I think that I know what a hadrosaur ought to look like. :-)
>> Looking over the reconstructions in the publication, I LIKE the thick
>> neck with _Shantungosaurus_, _Saurolophus_, _Anatotitan_, _Kritosaurus_, and
>> _Edmontosaurus_. I DON'T LIKE the neck with _Ouranosaurus_,
>> _Tsintaosaurus_, _Corythosaurus_, and _Parasaurolophus_.
>> Essentially, I find that the longer-necked morphs don't look as good as
>> the shorter-necked morphs - AT LEAST TO MY ADMITTEDLY PREJUDICED EYES.
Tracy also wrote:
The two Mummifed Edmontosaurs have what may be considered a neck
that is in between the two types you suggest.
This would make sense to me – that some
forms might be in-between the 2 major morphs.
ALL:
AS AN ASIDE: Due to new virus software on my PC –
several messages from the DML have apparently been quarantined. I checked in the DML Archive and I did not
receive the following messages (Note that the last two may just be delayed):
Subject:
_Piveteausaurus divesensis_
From:
"Jordan Mallon" <j_mallon@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:05:10 -0400
Subject:
Re: Shuvuuia deserti has 3 fingers and long tail (And I have some info about this).
From:
Dann Pigdon <dannj@alphalink.com.au>
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 09:59:09 +1000
Subject:
Re: Coprophagy addendum
From:
Morgan Churchill <mmcjawa@yahoo.com>
Date:
Sat, 27 Apr 2002 06:23:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: Hadrosaur Appearance
From:
MariusRomanus@aol.com
Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2002 21:20:30 EDT
Subject:
Do not open "A Funny Game" (I
did not get the referenced email either).
From:
MKIRKALDY@aol.com
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:10:17 EDT
Subject:
A query re: Jurgen Haffer
From:
StephanPickering@cs.com
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 10:26:11 EDT
Subject:
Running T. rex
From:
"Patrick Norton" <ptnorton@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:12:59 -0400
Subject:
virus
From:
ronbuckley@fuse.net
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 12:28:09 -0500
Subject:
Overlooked paper
From:
StephanPickering@cs.com
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 13:55:50 EDT
Subject:
Re: del Hoyo's avian volumes
From:
"Fred Ruhe" <fredruhe@xs4all.nl>
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 01:58:08 +0200
Subject:
A New Hypothesis for the Origin of Flight?
From:
Waylon Rowley <whte_rbt_obj@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2002 20:39:49 -0700
(PDT)
Everyone would be well advised to update
your virus scanner, and rescan your system.