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Re: Newtonsaurus et al.



StephanPickering@cs.com wrote-
 
Walkersaurus hesperis (Waldman 1974) is a ceratosaur.
 
This is quite interesting.  I've heard it is similar to Monolophosaurus and seem to have a Dilophosaurus comparison in my memory somewhere.  Any support for its ceratosaurian nature (or at least coelophysoid, dilophosaurid or neoceratosaurian nature, given that recent analyses have made Ceratosauria sensu lato paraphyletic)?
 
Megalosaurus/Metriacanthosaurus are closer to each other than either is to any known ceratosaur (Megalosaurus = Torvosaurus).
 
Although I recall Paul (1988) synonymized these genera, the only phylogenetic analyses containing both (Holtz, 1994, 2000, etc.) haven't found them to be sister taxa.  Rather, they are successively closer to Avetheropoda/Neotetanurae, with Megalosaurus being less derived than Torvosaurus in his 2000 phylogeny (with Eustreptospondylus in between).  Of course, this would be a lot easier to defend if Megalosaurus were ever redescribed (which I hear is in the works, seemingly forever).  If only I noted their placement in Holtz's most recent SVP 2001 phylogeny.
 
The recent attempted resurrection of "Magnosaurus" is most unfortunate, as von Huene's nomenclature was rather confusing: the name was originally in 1932 applied to BMNH R3542, a right tibia of the ceratosaur Sarcosaurus, von Huene naming it Sarcosaurus andrewsi (1932:51-52). In the same 1932 monograph, ! ! on page 219, von Huene gave BMNH R3542 yet a second name, Magnosaurus woodwardi! The ceratosaur Sarcosaurus woodi = Sarcosaurus andrewsi BMNH R3542 = Magnosaurus woodwardi BMNH R3542. Alas: 1932:220, von Huene stumbles on his shadow, when he gives the name Magnosaurus also to BMNH 41352, von Huene's 1926 Megalosaurus lydekkeri which is an indeterminate theropod tooth from Dorsetshire, his 1932 Magnosaurus being a "n.g." for Megalosaurus nethercombensis and, at the end of his short discussion, a "subgenus" of Megalosaurus. Now, we have, in 2001, the name Magnosaurus being used for Eustreptospondylus, which is not a ceratosaur.  
 
Hmm.  I never knew M. woodwardi was the type species, nor did I know a Magnosaurus woodwardi existed.  Was the name Magnosaurus applied to Megalosaurus lydekkeri or M. nethercombensis first?  One thing I would be cautious about is synonymizing Sarcosaurus woodi with S? andrewsi.  I've never seen an educated opinion of the latter, but the two species cannot be compared as far as I know (with S. woodi lacking a preserved tibia).
 
To rephrase the paradigms involved: Megalosaurus/Metriacanthosaurus are a closely knit group of theropods not sharing any diagnostic ceratosaur synapomorphies. Eustreptospondylus/Streptospondylus/Poekilopleuron are closer to the "spinosaurs" than to Megalos! ! aurus/Metriacanthosaurus ("spinosaur" I use advisedly, the type being lost, and Horrorwood's attempted conjuration of it in Jurassic Park III wishful thinking).
I would say- Megalosaurus, Torvosaurus and Eustreptospondylus are basal tetanurines, the latter two probably close to spinosaurids.  Theropod "Streptospondylus" remains appear close to Eustreptospondylus.  Metriacanthosaurus may be sinraptorid, while Poekilopleuron could be carnosaurian.  None of these taxa are "ceratosaurs" though.
 
Mickey Mortimer