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Achillobator - how big is it??




I just finished reading the description of _Achillobator_ by Perle, Norell and Clark (1999). The paper is a little (ahem) unpolished (for the reasons given in an earlier post).


Anyway, there is one thing I still can't work out, even after reading the paper. How BIG is _Achillobator_? The authors state it is three times the size of _Deinonychus_, which should put it in the ball-park of 8 to 9m.

The femur of _Achillobator_ is about 50cm long. As a ROUGH guide to the size of smaller dromaeosaurids, the total adult body length is about ten times the femoral length: _Deinonychus_'s femur is about 30cm, _Velociraptor_'s is about 20cm. This doesn't hold for bigger dromies - I'm guessing their legs are proportionately shorter (i.e. compared to total body length) than their smaller cousins. This must be especially true for _Achillobator_. So can anyone tell me how big _Achillobator_ might have been, and how you worked it out?

Another thing I thought was interesting concerns the sickle-like ungual of the second toe (the "killer claw"). _Achillobator_ has the typical dromie morphology of the second toe (especially the claw-bearing phalanx). But based on the figures, _Achillobator_'s "killer-claw" isn't really all that big. It's only around 11cm long (that's linear length, not around the curve of the claw). It's only a little bigger than the killer claw of a 2.8m-long _Deinonychus_ (ungual 9-10cm long), and much smaller than _Utahraptor_'s (c.6m long) killer claw (around 20cm).

_Adasaurus_ has only a small killer claw (by dromie standards), but I'm not sure the specimen is adult, or even a dromaeosaurid. (As for _Hulsanpes_, it is definitely is NOT a dromie.)


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