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Re: Extinction



OK. And the lesser dinosaurs? Your arguments are strong, but dinosaurs were a highly polymorphic group. Did randomic extinction destory all dinosaurs? Why did the birds survive?
And the plants? Everyone say...meteor falling...dust.. sunlight blocked...plants die...herbivorous dinosaurs die...etc
There's some evidence that plants were affected?
All frogs hibernated? All lizards? All turtles?
I think still there's much to be discovered. The records in Southern continents are still so poor. I think S America, Sotheast Asia, Australia, S Africa and India are the keys to new findings.
 
Thanks for the reply
Joao
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Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 12:44 AM
Subject: RE: Extinction

There are many arguments about this, but here are those I find most compelling.
 
1.  It is estimated that whatever caused the KT extinction killed 90% of extant taxa in all groups in the biosphere (i.e. land and sea).  Whenever you do that, you are bound to kill 100% of some groups and < 100% of some other groups - purely by random chance.   ANY method that randomly kills 90% of all taxa will cause extinction in some families and not in others, without any additional explanation because it simply is random.
 
2.  There seems to have been a systematic bias against animals of large body mass.   So, it was not a completely random 90% - your odds of survival were greater if you were smaller.
 
3.  There may be (this is more controversial) a bias in favor of survival for animals that hibernate, have a dormant life cycle for part of the year, or burrow.   This includes many small mammals, and it also includes many frogs and amphibians.
 
Taken together, these three effects - random chance that some groups would have some survivors, and a bias against body size and a bias toward burrowers/hibernators are probably the best explanation to date. 
 
Note that these arguments are not specific to an impact scenario - it is the statistical properties of any KT mechanism that matter.
 
Nathan
-----Original Message-----
From: João Simões Lopes Filho [mailto:jodan99@uol.com.br]
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 7:28 PM
To: dinosaur@usc.edu
Subject: Extinction

1)Thank you all who answered me.
2)Nobody can convince me about this "meteor-destroying-dinosaurs". It's sure there was a meteor impact on KT, but why it destroyed only dinosaurs, pterosaurs, ammonites and marine reptiles? Why it did not kill frogs, or turtles? The mystery continues.
3) Southeast Asia was part of Angara or of Gondwana?
 
Joao SL
Rio