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Re: Where did my posting go?????? and Info



Jaime:

You said:
Not to say you were lying, Matt, which I certainly
hope I didn't imply! But to say that the statement was
not correct given my perusal of the paper in question.

D'oh. No offense taken. Actually, I should be the one apologizing to you. That was one of those late night e-mails, and I was ticked about my message not having gone out, so I sincerely apologize coming off like I did. I read my posting this morning and went, "oh, boy, I really sound lame." My bad. =) I don't want anyone to be "afraid" (ha, right, of me????) to ask about or challenge the stuff I put on the dino list. I am only a graduate student, and very fallible.

You are right, of course, the darn thing does have a calcaneal tuber. I suppose my point was that since it is very ornithodiran, and since the tuber is relatively small, I have my doubts that Marasuchus is a leaper based on foot and limb aspects. The long tail is rather intriguing, though, and the limbs are tall and rather slender. I could see making an argument for a runner, but a tree-climber I dunno.

I'm so used to assuming slow speeds in the guys I work on, it's difficult for me sometimes to grant that, yes, some dinos were relatively fast critters or that not all may have lived on the ground. Not remembering right now, but I'm pretty sure that Marasuchus has the ventrally-directed shoulder sockets, and so this would be another thing that would restrict the arms and make me have some doubts about it being a tree climber.

I guess I want to see more evidence for arms that could be pulled out sideways or more flexible limb joints. The relatively high center of gravity would seem to make the animal vunerable to falling, and if a tree-dweller without flexible ankles and grasping feet, this would indeed be a bad thing. =)

One thing that has always intrigued me about dinosaurs is this idea: perhaps because they have relatively stiff joints and limbs that tended to move in relatively restricted planes, could this be a reason (among many) for why dinos got so big? In other words, maybe one of the problems with getting huge is that if you have multiple degrees of freedom in your joints, you have problems going beyond a certain size because of all the torques, stresses, etc. If you are ancestrally constrained, perhaps it is easier for you to get big?

I know this is not a completely original idea (and perhaps not original at all) but I know I've heard bits and pieces of these things somewhere before. The point is, maybe it's not so bad to be a terrestrial stiff-legged "reptile": could have it's advantages, y'know? =) ;)

Matt Bonnan

"I've got two legs from my hips to the ground
And when I move 'em I walk around
And when I lift 'em they climb the stairs
And when I shave 'em they ain't got hairs
I've got two legs ..."
-- Monty Python

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