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Rats. I sent this nice message about Marasuchus, addressing some things about the calcaneum and antitrochanter and ... ah, crud. I don't have the time and energy right now to write again -- I guess it was sent to the great void in the sky. =) =(

To quickly address Jaime Headden's statement that I am saying something untrue about Marasuchus, let me clarify. While there is a calcaneal tuber present in Marasuchus, it is so reduced and small that it's overall effect on locomotion would be comparable to what's going on in dinosaurs -- nothing. In fact, the "tuber" is merely a small bump which faces posteriorly and is roughly equal in size and prominence to the posterior tuber on the distal end of the fibula, where the big plantarflexors are surely not inserting.

This condition is no where near what we see in Alligators, let alone the big leaping kangaroos. The calcaneum is not providing the sort of lever arm you see in jumpers. Furthermore, we've got the simple hinge-like joint in Marasuchus as we do in other dinos and the metatarsals appear to have been held vertically, as in other dinos.

In my original, now vanished, posting, I described this and other things in some detail. I also encouraged interested list members to read the following articles:

Paul Sereno and Andrea Arcucci. 1994. Dinosaurian precursors from the Middle Triassic of Argentina: Marasuchus lilloensis, gen. nov. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, 14(1): 53-73.

Please have a good look at the reconstruction of the Marasuchus skeleton, and note that the tiny tuber on its calcaneum contributes next to nothing at the ankle joint -- this joint is the hinge-like thing we see in all other dinosaurs.

By the way, the head of the femur is cylindrical in Marasuchus. So as not to be accused of saying untruths, Sereno and Arcucci describe the top portion of the femur as "egg-shaped." The femoral head is NOT spherical and is longer lateromedially than anteroposteriorly. Again, this allows motions back and forth, but limits side-to-side motions considerably.

For those interested in that wild-card Megalancosaurus that get's thrown very often into conversations of non-dino/bird origins, you may be interested in this article, also in the same issue:

Silvio Renesto. 1994. Megalancosaurus, a possibly arboreal archosauromorph (Reptilia) from the Upper Triassic of northern Italy. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, 14(1): 38-52.

Hope this helps,
Matt Bonnan

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