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Re: Giant flightless birds
><<The purpose of my query is to gather data on groups of extinct
>flightless birds to trace phylogeny to living forms and to the
>dinosaurs. (Flightlessness being an ancestral trait and therefore a
>semi-good marker for phylogenetic research, in my opinion. Of course,
>I've said that before.) I'm trying to find out the adaptations of the
>rest of the body in addition to/or because of the loss of flight.
>Especially the pelvis.>>
>
><Well, let's talk about a flightless bird's pelvis. If alvarezosaurids
>are birds, then they show a unique amount of variation in the structure
>of the pelvis compared to other birds. Patagopteryx is
>convergent on some ratites in the morphology of the pelvis (pubis and
>ischium are of equal length and are nearly parallel, with a small
>foot-like process on the dital end).>
>
>First I've heard that on *Patagopteryx*.
Herculano and Bonaparte have described the pelvis of Patagopteryx
as being basically similiar to the ratite pelvis ( pubis and ischium of
equal length, both thin and rod-like, extending to the distal portion of
the pygostyle).
><One of the strangest trends in flightless birds is the convergent
>morphology of the pelvis. Some flightless ratites, anseriformes,
>gruiformes, galliforms, podicipediformes, gaviiformes, and even
>hesperornithiformes have a arrangements of the pelvis where the pubis
>and ischium are nearly horizontal and extend to the distal end of the
>pygostyle.>
>
>Ostriches have a pubic symphysis, if I'm not mistaken, while nearly all
>other avian pelvises do not (e.g., passerines, strigiforms, penguins,
>falconiforms). This may be a atavism, retroeval character, or something
>else entirely, if true.
Seperation of the distal pubes is a character of Hesperornis+
Icthyornis and all other birds. I'll have to check on whether Struthio
has a pubis symphysis.
><The pelvis in phorusrhacids, however, is not in this arrangement, and
>it resembles more of that of a flighted, volant bird. The arrangement
is
>conservative in all lineages of flightless birds (and I have only
>scratched the surface on the diversity of them). It should be noted,
>with *perhaps* the exception of Spenisciformes (penguins) and the
>possiblilty of aquatic gaviiform ancestors, that most flightless birds
>evolved in parallel of each other and they evolved the structure of
>their pelvis convergently.>
>
>This brings me to something. I'm trying to get a hold of more info on
>*Phorusrhacos*, especially something more than a restoration---skull,
>arm, etc. Somewhere on the net, and article, a book....
There's the _Discover_ article on phorusrhacids ( with a nice set of
pictures of Andalgalornis ), a Paleoworld episode on them, a small
section in Feduccia's book on them, Bob Chandler's SVP abstract, and
this one:
Chandler, R.M., 1994. The wing of Titanis walleri ( Aves:
Phorusrhacidae ) from the late Blancan of Florida. _Bulletin Florida
State Museum of Natural History, Biology Series 36 ( 6 ): 175-180.
>Jaime A. Headden
>
>PS: by the way, if you know, how many avian taxa have a notarium?
Most all have a notarium.
MattTroutman
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