Re: The absurity, the absurdity (was: WUSSY RAPTORS)

["Larry Dunn" <larrydunn@hotmail.com>]

Noel wrote

>Am I wrong for trying to use this list as a resource for getting
>intelligent information?  You are all to busy being defensive (Larry,)

Say there! We are all (Larry)! Who me, defensive?  I'm usually a jolly 
old soul.  Now why single ME out in this, Noel?  Do you think it might 
be that you don't like my point about Deinonychus?  I know it's a very 
unpopular viewpoint, but brother do people take this personally or 
what?!

>while some of us are actually trying to get something from this list!!

I'm sorry that you think I'm not.

>       Isn't it so Ironic that Larry is telling Wile E 81 about fantasy
>when all FD is implying is that a predatory animal actually killed it's
>prey!! 

Oh my goodness, I'm not suggesting that a predatory animal didn't kill 
it's prey!  Wile E 81 suggest a whole lot more than that, though.  I'm 
just suggesting that the small ones in question don't fit the profile of 
fellows who get together and kill very very big animals.

> Is it so hard to assume that deinonychus could hunt in packs?

Think for a minute about all of the thousands of animal species around 
today.  Then think about the ones that pack-hunt.  That's a really tiny 
percentage, so you'd probably want to be very careful in assuming that 
any extinct animal did.

>Dinosaurs are just stupid pee-brained animals some, and they couldn't 
even
>peel grapes.

I'm not putting the dinosaurs back in the swamps, Noel, I'm just saying 
that we should understand their behavior based on an assessment of their 
abilities.  Paleontologists say that most dinosaurs were not even as 
smart as birds. 

>       Now picture what could of happened,  There's a shortage of food and
>water. Five deinonychus are starving and hungry, but they see a 
tenontosaur
>group, they spot one that strayed a little bit and decide to rush it.  
Of
>course all the other T.s spot them when one of their own starts 
thrashing
>and screaming.  All of the other tenontosaur come to the aid of their
>compatriot but,... all hope is lost.  Now you have a bunch of mad 
dinosaurs
>and maybe three of the slower d.s, I'm sure that you can figure out the
>rest.

But animals usually don't do this.  If a bunch of lions attack a zebra, 
the other zebra don't run over to defend it.  There are some animals 
that might do this, but aren't we assuming a lot about tenontasaurs to 
say this might be so?  And wouldn't the slowest deinonychus probably be 
faster than the fastest tenontosaur?

>       Now of course, I expect a rude email from Larry telling me how
>absurd the preceding was.
>  I'm am not convinced that Larry is mature
>enough to deal with these things, 

You've been talking with my broker, haven't you?

>so I'm not even going respond to him.

Well, I hope that that's not so.  Please feel free to respond.

  My
>definition of "science" is the search for the truth, but the truth 
cannot
>be found among ignorance.

That's a good thing.  I hope you think about this discussion some more, 
not because you want Deinonychus to be a pack-hunter, but because you 
want to understand the truth about the animals and how they really 
lived.

Larry

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