Re: Big birds on Paleoworld

[pharrinj@PLU.edu]

On Tue, 9 Jan 1996 Dinogeorge@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 96-01-08 12:56:51 EST, ornstn@inforamp.net (Ronald
> Orenstein) writes:
> 
> >This is news to me (I gather it's a recent discovery).  Details?
> >Referrences?  Certainly the living seriemas are not put together like that.
> >Were the claw better developed tan on (say) a hoatzin chick?
> 
> It was news to me, too; but then again, I'm not a paleornithologist. The
> current JVP has a little feature on _Titanis walleri_, the Florida
> phorusrhacid (-oid?) 

That depends on whether it is a member of the family Phorusrhacidae or 
the superfamily Phorusrhacoidea.  Is there such a superfamily?

> and there is a ref to Chambers's article in the biblio.
> Perhaps that's the one? I gathered from the show that although the claws were
> there, so was the fused carpometacarpus...!
> 

Don't kiwis retain wing claws (along with a carpometacarpus) as well?