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Re[2]: Linnean Classification and Creationism
DinoGeorge said:
I have a problem with the word "exist," which was first brought
home to me when I discussed the idea of "species" with a cladist
(before my boycott of the sci.bio.paleontology newsgroup). I
explained that any species that is ancestral to any other species
is by definition a paraphyletic taxon, because it no longer
includes all its descendants, and that for cladists to allow
species, but not other taxa, to speciate is inconsistent. He
explained that when a species speciates, it "ceases to exist," and
is thus not a paraphyletic taxon. So, for example, when a new
species B "buds off" as a subpopulation of species A, species A
vanishes (just like that!) and is replaced by species B and a new
species, C, which holds all those descendants of A that are not in
B.
(No--I'm serious! This is how he said it!!)
Well, if the species "ceases to exist," what meaning does this
have for the clade that comprises the descendants of that no-
longer-existing species? It would seem, from the foregoing, that
the only parts of any clade that "exist" are the terminal taxa,
and that most of the clade therefore does not "exist."
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No, stop, my head hurts.
erk, this means I'm not a Homo Sapiens anymore? What would
this guy claim is current?
So if the Canid domesticae (for example) are bred for a
particular trait, and produce a subspecies different enough for a
Linnean to give it it's own species name, what happens to Canid
domesticae? Do dogs just cease to exist? Is there a
pre-existing taxa for the group that everyone will automatically
use, or do the developers of the new subspecies get to rename
dogs?
-Betty